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Sub: California FYLSE October 2009 Baby Bar Exam
Author: scrivener5 [21813]
15 Nov 2009 03:19 AM
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Did anyone take the October 2009 Baby Bar Exam? If you did, did you write or type the exam? What was your general impression of the Baby Bar?

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
15 Nov 2009 03:46 AM
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scrivener5

Here's a commercial bar prep's "model answer" of a FYLSE essay that got a 90 score (90/100):
http://thelawprofessoronline.com/Mo...udent.html

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Author: John [21813]
15 Nov 2009 01:04 PM
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I took it in October, but could not use my laptop to type the essays. The ExamSoft program needed to access the .msi installer file, but my wireless client was not cooperating. It was very unsettling, to the say the least.

I had complied with all of the installation/preparation requirements, and relied on the claim that internet access would not be required during the morning of the exam. I think I should have saved the installation program to my hard drive. Maybe I clicked "run" instead of "save", I'm not sure.

The actual exam was extremely tough. Doing 100 MBE questions in 3 hours was more difficult than I thought. For me, it was barely enough time to read the questions and evaluate each answer choice. I think I may have spent too much time early on agonizing over which of the two remaining answer choices to pick on some of the questions. As it was at the :30 second mark, I had to bubble in the answers to the six questions that I had remaining. I feel confident about most of the questions that I did answer, although I know that a raw score of 75 will be hard to get out of 94 questions answered.

For those wondering, FYLS do not get any breaks. The MBE questions were tougher than any of the prep questions, that I studied with at least. What made them especially tough is that the questions involving a main fact pattern were not clustered together. Because they were spread throughout the exam, I would have to re-read the main facts. I wish I could have just focused on the changed facts and the new call of the question. I would have saved alot of time.

Four essays in four hours seemed doable, but I had difficulty managing my time with a defamation question and a Torts racehorse question.

I know that I am going to have to re-take the exam. I am disappointed, because I really knew the legal rules. But, it is apparent to me now that I will have to practice more MBEs and do alot more practice essays in order to be successful and join the 18% that pass this exam.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
15 Nov 2009 02:13 PM
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Hi John,

I agree with you that the MCQs were very challenging. Cheer up because you might be underestimating how well you did.

Here is a great podcast on the FYLSE:

http://podcast.lawstudentweb.com/20...ittle.aspx

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Author: Sean [21813]
15 Nov 2009 04:46 PM
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Sean

Sean wrote:
I am a serious, dependable, and highly motivated person who is looking for an online study group for students taking or repeating the baby bar exam. Such a group must meet at least once a week, and consist of committed members.

Please email me at sdgaynor@yahoo.com.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
15 Nov 2009 05:21 PM
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scrivener5

A study group is an excellent idea. I didn't have that luxury. That said, if you can find some people who will not just ride on your coat-tails...then go for it!

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
15 Nov 2009 08:53 PM
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scrivener5

BTW--Scrivener5 is my screen name that refers to the fact that I actually hand-wrote the exam. Should I be fortunate enough to clear this hurdle, then I will absolutely use a laptop on the full California bar exam!


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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
17 Nov 2009 11:02 AM
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scrivener5

This is probably one of the best resources for arming yourself for the Baby Bar exam, or even the California Bar Exam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNW...re=related

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Author: Sean [21813]
17 Nov 2009 07:48 PM
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Sean

I liked the podcast that you posted better than the Youtube video. Nothing wrong with a motivational speech, but I preferred the encouragement plus realism of the podcast.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
17 Nov 2009 10:34 PM
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scrivener5

You are absolutely, 100% correct about the realism aspect. But, let's face it--this exam...like most bar exams...is a mind trip. You just have to be grounded. You must not give in to weakness. You must stay focused. You must be confident. You must be calm, cool, collected, in control, and in full command of all of your faculties.

Sometimes, a motivational speech can reach that inner part of your soul and inspire you to greatness!

(Just sayin'...)

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Author: pwrbrkr38 [21813]
19 Nov 2009 12:22 PM
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Hey Sean,

I am almost certian that I am the guy who sat next to you during the BB...(on your left). I am from FL and remember you having problems w/ your laptop.

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Author: Sean [21813]
19 Nov 2009 08:53 PM
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Sean

Pwrbrkr38, please send me an email to sdgaynor@yahoo.com. Thanks!

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Author: pwrbrkr38 [21813]
20 Nov 2009 01:46 PM
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pwrbrkr38

email sent....

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
20 Nov 2009 02:05 PM
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It seems as though people are asking about this distance learning avenue to the J.D., lately. I guess it is because the world is global, technology is instantaneous, and the old models are old and tired. Cyberspace is the present, not the future.

That said, I wish the best for all who took the FYLSE on October 27th. Today, I believe, candidates for the full Bar get their results. Best wishes to you, too!


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Author: Scrivener5 [21813]
20 Nov 2009 09:33 PM
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The California Bar Exam results were just posted. Only 56.4% passed. Pretty ruthless cut, there.

http://barprofessors.blogspot.com/

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Author: Scrivener5 [21813]
20 Nov 2009 10:59 PM
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Scrivener5

This is an excellent description of the California Bar Exam (CBX):

http://calbar.wordpress/

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Author: meshkz [21813]
21 Nov 2009 10:19 PM
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i wrote. it was straight frwrd buddy. no suprizez. follow the calls and dont panic... cntrctz was the tricky one and crim was really long! Torts 1 was neg/int's 2 was def/iop's... mbe's wer close to finz but shorter... flemingz is a distractor cuz he makes he derives his Q's starting with the Answers so i would avoid his review for the MBE's... i ran out of time on the last essay though but i got all my issues/points in... good luck!

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Author: Scrivener5 [21813]
23 Nov 2009 07:33 PM
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How is everybody coping with the wait for scores? Does the low passing rate on the GBX seem to you to be an omen of things to come for us? Are you exercising? Sleeping well? Hanging out with friends?

How goes it?

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Author: greg [21813]
24 Nov 2009 03:15 PM
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anyone know when Calbar posts the essay questions? I was hoping to see them up prior to the results on 12/11.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
24 Nov 2009 04:16 PM
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scrivener5

I posted the questions as I remembered them. Google "scrivener5" and fylse.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
24 Nov 2009 10:12 PM
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scrivener5

Sorry about that. Google "2009 fylse" because scrivener5 is not being recognized by the www.

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Author: scrivener5 [21813]
25 Nov 2009 08:41 AM
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I didn't mean to be so cagey...but I actually DID post the questions to the October 2009 FYLSE on another site that is a competitor here. Therefore, it would be unconscionable to plug a competitor, here. Hope that you understand!

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
28 Nov 2009 09:27 AM
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October 2009 FYLSE California Baby Bar Exam

 

These are the questions from the October 2009 Baby Bar Exam (as I remember them).  Please provide more details that you remember.

 

I completed the essays in numerical order.  I have supplied my own titles:

 

Essay One: The Political Rally

 

The facts were that, at political rally attended by 1,000 people, the organizer at the event (in support for a challenger to the mayor) made defamatory comments about the wife of the current mayor.  Based on "largely false" information he heard from a notorious gossip, he told the crowd that the mayor's wife was a snob and a cutthroat who blocked her personal friend's membership to a private women's club.  The mayor's wife had actually supported her friend's membership. The mayor's wife had appeared in public for the first time two days before the event.  The call of the question asked (1.) about the the claims of mayor's wife and (2.)the organizer's defenses.

 

Essay Two: The Laptop Theft

 

In trying to recover a gambling debt, a principal sent an email to his agent friend instructing her to recover the debtor's laptop from the debtor's house.  The principal led the agent to believe that the laptop belonged to the principal.  In the email, the principal told her where to find the key under the doormat to the debtor's house. 

 

The email was intercepted by a third party, without knowledge of the others.  When the agent arrived at the house, the door was open and the third party was ransacking the house.  The agent entered through the open door and startled the third party.  The third party slipped and fell,  banged his head on a table, and ran away. 

 

The agent searched the house, found the laptop, and decided she wanted the laptop for herself. She put the laptop in her purse.  The agent called the police.  When the police arrived, the agent said that the third party stole the laptop.  When  the police went to the third party's house, they found him dead.

 

The call of the question asked us to discuss the crimes and the defenses.

 

Essay Three:  The Luxury Boat

 

A luxury boat company sent an unsolicited mailing to a prospective customer for an all-expenses paid trip to a hotel next to where a luxury boat was being offered for sale.  The customer came and looked at the boat.  The salesman claimed that the boat was "state of the art" and at the best available price.  He gave her a form to which he had written the name of the boat in the blank.  He wrote her name on the form as well.  In red italics above the customer signature line, there was a statement such that "This offer is made with the understanding that it is accepted only  after the Luxury Boat company approves the sale."  

 

The customer took the unsigned form home.  A week later, she searched the internet and found out that the boat was not the best price.  She still decided to sign the form and she faxed it back to the company.  Another week later, she did more research and found out that the boat was a discontinued model.  She faxed a revocation.  The same day she received in the mail the form she had signed.  It was stamped "approved" by the company.

 

The call of the question asked what were the Company's claims against her and on what theories. 

 

Question 4:  The Loud and Violent Teen

 

A minor had gotten into trouble for disruptive behavior in school.  A psychologist hired by the school assessed the minor and determined that he had a 90% chance of committing violence on someone in the future.  The parents ignored the warning and sent the minor to stay with his uncle.

 

At the uncle's house, the minor loudly played his guitar.  The noise disturbed a neighbor who was a therapist counseling patients in his home.  The therapist complained to the uncle.  The uncle told the minor to lower the volume.  The uncle had to leave the house one day and told the minor to keep down the guitar's volume.  When the uncle left the house one day, the minor cranked up the volume.  The therapist came over and asked the minor to turn it down.  The minor told him off.

 

As the therapist was leaving the minor threw a large heavy rock at him.  The rock missed the therapist but hit a woman walking by.  The woman sustained serious and permanent injuries.

 

The call of the question asked for:  (1) The therapist's actions against minor, (2) The therapist's actions against the uncle, (3) The woman's actions against the minor, and (4) the woman's actions against the minor's parents.

Remember, "it's just another day!" (Sir Paul McCartney)
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw_Jao8hMPA


John Secada, "Just Another Day"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yfu9egNOdA


"Peace Train" by Cat Stevens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aYCKfuFI60


"Life is a Highway" by Tim Cochrane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3sMjm9Eloo


"You Are My Starship" by Norman Connors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC3pLlBD0wo


Mr. Tiger Woods,

I feel your pain.  Seriously, dude.  But, as Flava Flav famously declared,

"I Can't Do Nuthin' for Ya' Man!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBlMrGgpwXE


Mr. Woods,

I understand, clearly.  You have an issue.  Here's a tissue. 

It's a hard knock life, my friend.  A billion dollars won't save you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_ex3VGHIM


Mr. Al Green, ":Love and Happiness"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWPDGWP568


The topical elements of this song (A married man with "a wife and two little children at home" who falls in love and tells his young lover that he is conflicted about the relationship) show the timeless nature of Mr. Percy Sledge's rendition of "If Loving You is Wrong...I Don't Want to be Right"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgSbNWl8m6Y


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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
28 Nov 2009 04:34 PM
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Well, less than two weeks away from our fate!  Here is the October 2009 FYLSE Baby Bar exam theme song, "I Will Survive!" by Gloria Gaynor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBR2G-iI3-I

This song goes out to a hero...this song is dedicated to the scorned and rejected...this song goes out to the SURVIVORS of emotional, psychological, and physical abuse...this song goes out to the true American champions...

This song goes out to:  Mrs. Tiger Woods.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as1sA4LZucM


Golfer Tiger Woods, his daughter Sam, his mother Kultida and...

http://www.examiner.com/x-2593-Modern-Love-Examiner~y2009m12d8-Tiger-Woods-the-wife-the-mistresses-Madonna-and-the-whores


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/tiger_his_pimps_knew_all_the_tricks_ffzphYiTvhe3Zeym2ALcmN




Mr. Tiger Woods got some pretty slip-shod legal advice immediately following his encounter with the fire hydrant and the tree. 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703558004574582091561335288.html?mod=rss_Today

Fortunately, there is a lesson in it for us regarding Mr. Woods's P.R. fiasco.  As the great Kenny Rogers sang, there is a time to hold 'em and a time to fold 'em.  This video (a lecture on the 5th Amendment by a law school professor) shows when clamming up is the right move:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

"If he had gotten a statement out immediately, he wouldn't have averted the media frenzy, but he might have controlled it better," says Paul Levinson, a professor of communication and media studies at Fordham University. "The media is like a barking dog that wants meat thrown to it. If it doesn't get enough meat, the dog breaks into the house to get it."

Tiger Woods and his wife, Elin.
Photo by AP
Tiger Woods and his wife, Elin.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/03/AR2009120304627_pf.html

'[ Eric Dezenhall, a crisis-management expert in Washington]doesn't think Woods should try to do damage control now. "You can't rebuild a house in the middle of a hurricane," he says. "Sometimes you have to wait for it to pass to start rebuilding. . . . We're no longer in an age where you can feed the [media] beast. You can't do it when the beast is infinite. No matter what he does now, people will say it's too little, too late. At this stage, less is more." '

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2458986/tiger_woods_prenuptial_agreement_elin.html?cat=14

Dr. Drew offers the besieged Mr. Woods some very apt professional psychological advice:

http://www.examiner.com/x-32213-Memphis-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m12d6-Video-Tiger-Woods-addicted-to-sex-Dr-Drew-Pinksy-weighs-in














http://www.nj.com/business/index.ssf/2009/12/tiger_woods_handicap_good_pr.html


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/Like+Tiger+Woods+watched/2315221/story.html

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
29 Nov 2009 05:25 PM
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Hi Friends,

(Don't trust them...because I know!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJP0tbhAVQ

I know that I must be careful not to post too much of my music.  That (apparently) is what motivated some jerks to delete a great post I made on their site...but I digress...

Anyway, here is my all-time favorite jam.  It is my Birthday today so I feel privileged to post this classic by Howlin' Wolf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1FK...re=related

Here's the great Howlin' Wolf with some blues for the struggling law students:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ou-6A3MKow&feature=related

We're so sorry...uncle albert...(Paul McCartney and Wings)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsWufNDJl4M

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
29 Nov 2009 07:33 PM
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Here's Mystery Web Guy.

I relied on his advice for the FYLSE in addition to the GREAT prep from my law school!

http://podcast.lawstudentweb.com/20...ittle.aspx

And...here is some EXCELLENT motivation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNWtRPSq5Q

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
30 Nov 2009 03:23 AM
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For those brave souls about to face the June 2010 FYLSE California Bar Exams, "Don't Fear the Reaper!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUO_...re=related



Sometimes...you gotta have "More Cow-bell!"


http://www.livevideo.com/video/embedLink/4B1CD4B7032349C49C3D031426D06E7C/485055/snl-cowbell.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVbAuMr5eac&feature=fvw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_cowbell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyV2cPLuFuA&feature=related

I really enjoy this TV theme (Sanford and Son)...but it probably use some more cow-bell:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WqazleR3FE

Ian Dury and Blockheads with "Reasons to be Cheerful (part 3)"...which also could use more cow-bell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoOjtNs9EOk

CCR (supra)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clJb4zx0o1o

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
30 Nov 2009 03:31 AM
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I have to admit that I am feeling somewhat concerned about the results of the October 2009 Baby Bar exam that are due to be mailed to us December 11th.  But, I am hopeful.  We will be fine...because there is hope...Somewhere Over the Rainbow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltAGuuru7Q

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Author: Results [21813]
30 Nov 2009 02:59 PM
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Results

you can call CalBar on the 11th and get your results via phone if you can't wait for the snail mail.

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
30 Nov 2009 03:50 PM
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Thanks!

I would be remiss if I did not post this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZKHQnReig



I did not realize that I loved Ellen deGeneres until I just saw this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I6ZYoBuDkk

Here's Carl Carlton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sl5VurCaIQ

It is patently obvious that the late, great Michael Jackson heavily borrowed Mr. Carl Carlton's riff (supra):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4auq5tlUX4

Money corrupts. Obscene scads and scads of money make some people lose their natural minds!

This photo demonstrates the above point:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-smith/why-is-tiger-woods-in-the_b_377942.html


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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
30 Nov 2009 10:59 PM
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California Dreamin'

Mamas and the Papas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3GbF9Bx6E

Some viewer noticed the great Mama Cass on the video (supra).  Yes, she is the most interesting of the group.  Without question, she is the most marriage-able!

Anyway,  here is a (related?) video:

The B-52's with "Rock Lobster":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDZy6-fMCw4

I don't know why...but for some reason I can study VERY WELL to this:

B-52's with "Dirty Back Road"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zjh...re=related

lyrics to B-52's "Dirty Back Road"

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....s-The-B-52

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
01 Dec 2009 01:24 AM
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scrivener5

Here's a message from a successful candidate who passed:

http://www.jaywiseman.com/LAW_Passi...Essay.html


Here is a site that purports to show you how to pass the February 2010 California Bar Exam:

http://calbar.wordpress.com/


Here is my favorite rapper, Dr. Evil:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_ex3VGHIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SzE08aInn4

Here is the greatest drummer who ever lived, Bernard Purdie.

In fact, Mr. Bernard Purdie was called in to clean up Ringo's drum tracks for the Beatles!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9jXALaMy4o

Most folk know Mr. Purdie from his work with Steely Dan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I2jUdNGqIo

Here is the version of Peg, released in the 70's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEhRnBSGPjA&feature=fvw

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Author: JDRefuge [21813]
01 Dec 2009 01:40 AM
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JDRefuge

If you actually paste this code the youtube video will be actually displayed here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDe4v318f64

iDe4v318f64

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
01 Dec 2009 12:15 PM
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scrivener5

JDRefuge:

I understood nothing of what you were trying to tell me.

Please advise!

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Author: Jackie [67] Send Private Message
01 Dec 2009 06:51 PM
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I am guessing this what JDRefuge wanted to say : http://www.anonymousjds.com/FAQs/ta...fault.aspx

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
03 Dec 2009 10:38 AM
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Eight (8) more days until D-Day.  October 2009 FYLSE results are mailed next Friday.  Here's some Stones to ease the load:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tRdBsnX4N4

CCR:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS9_ipu9GKw

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04 Dec 2009 07:06 AM
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For those preparing to take the June 2010 FYLSE California Baby Bar exam:

You already know the deal.  If you don't already know the deal, then check out Mystery Web Guy and his run-down of the harsh reality of what you are facing:

http://podcast.lawstudentweb.com/20...ittle.aspx

The odds are long.  Your chances seem slim.  The competition for the ultimate prize, the GBX, is stiff...given the candidates from ABA schools meeting you in that auditorium for that grueling 3 day marathon contest. 

With everything stacked against you, you must get motivated.  Who is the avatar, the exemplar, the symbol of resistance (and triumph!) in the face of certain defeat? 

Rocky!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8DlBN_LLiA

Here's some Rocky theme music for your studying:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioE_O7Lm0I4

This was my personal, primary motivational video for the California October 2009 Baby Bar exam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNWtRPSq5Q

My favorite character is Mickey, the trainer who took away Rocky' privileges at the boxing gym and gave away Rocky's locker to a more serious boxer.  When Rocky got his improbable title shot...Mickey rushed over to Rocky's tenement house (literally hat-in-hand!).

Mickey had been an up -and-coming fighter in his youth.  However, he was very disappointed that Rocky had become a two-bit enforcer for the Mob.  When Rocky got his title shot, Mickey wanted to be part of the big show.

Rocky turned Mickey down.  Rocky sent Mickey out into the cold.  When Mickey left Rocky's row-house, and stumbled out into the cold...and when Rocky relented and ran to catch up to the broken and forlorn Mickey shuffling down the cold street...and when Rocky put his arm around Mickey's shoulders...

yeah...I cried a little bit.

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04 Dec 2009 11:24 AM
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Hi Friends,

Happily, I am NOW in that place where I "Don't Fear the Reaper!"

We're Movin' on UP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9y4iXAso4I

But here is the (post-Tiger Woods) billion dollar question:

Do YOU see the LIGHT?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1KZ...re=related

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04 Dec 2009 10:15 PM
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Well, Friends,

We are merely one (1) week away from our destiny vis-a-vis the October 2009 FYLSE California Baby Bar exam.  Are you excited?  Concerned?  Indifferent? Amused? Bored?

Don't stress.

The Witchdoctor is in the house.

Let me put a spell on you!

Muuuuuhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah:





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clry...eature=fvw

(This song is best filed under: "Time to seriously consider getting a temporary restraining order.")

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04 Dec 2009 10:58 PM
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This is one of the greatest live performances ever.  My favorite part is when John Fogerty marched forward with his troops. {around 1:38}  It is like the Revolutionary War...fightin' the Brits...and winning!  Or, it is like the show-down in Tombstone...when Doc Holliday and Wyatt Earp and company had to take care of some "bid-ness"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m77v...L&index=35




Yes, it is VERY cold-blooded.  But, then again, such is life.  That gritty attitude is what built these United States of America.  We don't take no shorts, you wankers! Mess with us, and you are messing with the lives of your own bloody  family!  And...don't you ever, never, ever forget that FACT.  Sometimes, you just have to say:

"Live and Let Die!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZKHQnReig




THE BIG PAYBACK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsOmvSlPuys

SHAFT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAa5rP64YbQ




Here is the KING. E-L-V-I-S...ELVIS! ELVIS! ELVIS! ELVIS!

 With a message to Mrs. Tiger Woods:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmAPYkPeYU


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://mediaswirl.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/tiger-woods.jpg&imgrefurl=http://mediaswirl.wordpress.com/2007/08/26/tiger-woods-richest-athlete/&usg=__RDzJ9hT74DebtZAVJT1pIZOPQKg=&h=490&w=376&sz=40&hl=en&start=3&sig2=iAyzz9jrAloWXBMP-o2HWQ&um=1&tbnid=K78Nloqty3Vm8M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=100&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtiger%2Bwoods%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1R2ADFA_enUS348%26um%3D1&ei=VccbS9etF5Ga8AaHmOziAw

Tiger Scorecard:
http://www.defamer.com.au/2009/12/the-many-troubles-of-tiger-woods-a-mistress-dossier/
(Currently 4 over par [confirmed] and still counting.)

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
05 Dec 2009 01:46 AM
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scrivener5

Here is ELVIS, THE KING, wishing you a very, very, Merry Christmas:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMCDriUlalE

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Author: FYI [21813]
05 Dec 2009 02:08 AM
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FYI

Put the code before v= into these brackets {} starting youtube=code

bracket open youtube=code bracket close

Get the code from the url (above the embeded code) of any youtube video.

Check the faq for www.jdrefuge.com

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
05 Dec 2009 07:34 AM
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scrivener5

Okay.  Just to make it very clear to me, use the code of the Elvis video in the post supra.  Step-by-step, as if explaining to a small child (or as if explaining to a bar examiner!) show me how.

Thanks!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aasy...re=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQQp...re=related


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Author: sherminator [21813]
06 Dec 2009 11:50 AM
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sherminator

Why arnt you guys discussing the actual test... enough with the you tube clips... my school has a 2/3 pass rate... so i am not worried. As for the rest of you having to contend with the average 18 percent, well i recommend suing the bar. :P
Seriously though, we need to get the cali ledgeslator to make ABA students take the exam as well. I predict if that ever happened the powers at the ABA schools would force the Cali bar people to make the test fair... Studies have been done having ABA kids take the baby bar, and they did hardly any better if not worse... But i digress, I hope the pass rate is higher then usual, with two tort essays this past exam i may get my wish. :-)

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Author: bunnyclawP [51] Send Private Message
06 Dec 2009 07:03 PM
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bunnyclawP

Ledgeslator?  Seriously?

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
06 Dec 2009 08:56 PM
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Sherminator

Oh spelling is overrated. I was writing it on the fly before church. Didn't even bother spell checking it, its not like it matters, LOL. Besides spelling doesnt count on the baby bar. If you spend your time worrying about such things you will never pass. But I guess thats why my school has the highest pass rate, we worry about the imporant things. So where do you go, Peoples College of Law. :P
(OH and FYI Peoples has the worse pass rate in the world, google them, you will get a laugh. :P They are the reason that everyone thinks we unaccredited law students are dummies, well that and my poor spelling... :P See I can laugh at myself too. ;-)
Well now back the point, how did you guys feel about the exam. My fellow students said it was tough but fair. They said the multiple choice was easier then past test's that have been given. (We did a lot of practice tests which included former exams.
Oh and what did you guys think of the essays? My class again thought they were easier then in the past, no real cross over.
Oh and this will make your day, some moron from another school was arguing promissory estoppel on the contracts essay when there was clear consideration. Its people like that make it easier for the rest of us. Poor, poor, souls. :-) (Oh and I would spell check this but this silly sight has no spell check and it wont let you copy and paste so deal with the poor spelling and enjoy my long post. :-)

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
06 Dec 2009 09:17 PM
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Hi Sherminator!

I am REALLY liking this!  I pray for your success and I pray you feel likewise.

Yes, we only have a few days before our results.

How are you weathering the storm?

Been keeping up with the "Doggy Dog" Woods news?

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Ne.../story.csp

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
06 Dec 2009 09:41 PM
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Sherminator

I would like to feel sorry for tiger, but he is not repentent for what he did. In fact he was trying to cover it up when he made that famous phone call that the media has reported.
I think he is only sorry he was caught. From the sounds of it he was involved with multiple woman. Quite sad really, married too a blonde thats a 10, and he is cheating cocktail waitresses. What in the world! Sorry I am ranting.
Now back to the Baby Bar... Like how does everyone else feel about the exam? Like what is everyones plan B if they flunk?
Oh and did everyone get finish the exam? I barely got through it on the essay porition, didnt get to spell check it like i wanted. But I the multiple choice was easy, finished with 5 minutes to spare, and that was with looking at my watch after every question...

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
06 Dec 2009 10:26 PM
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Hi Compadre,

Tiger is a low-down dirty dog who needs a plastic cone around his neck so he's not tempted to lick his nether regions!













Other than that, I wish him well!



http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20091207kiss__tell_from_tigers_latest_alleged_mistress_tigers_sex_drive_was_way_above_par/srvc=home&position=also

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
06 Dec 2009 10:40 PM
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scrivener5

Here is the latest brilliance from the internet:  An R&B slow jam ("Please (Baby Please!) Take Your Name Off Your Phone").  It has a pretty nice beat and features the actual voice message from a desperate Mr. Tiger Woods:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEkomaBTppY


I would have more respect for Mrs. Woods if she just kicked his worthless billion dollar butt to the curb.

But...business is business...(I guess...)

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar...tml?cat=14

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
06 Dec 2009 11:24 PM
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Sherminator

Yeah bashing Tiger is fun. :-) I guess it gets are mind off the Sword of Damacles that is hanging over are heads! :P So Tiger I hope you crash and burn if he does not repent of his horrible acts.
I say we make him take the baby bar, every time he fails take another 100 million away, that would show him. :P Now I wonder what judge we can convince to order this? :P

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 12:00 AM
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Hi Sherminator,

I really thought that my law school prepared us well for what we faced on October 27th.  In fact, on October 26th, our Dean specifically told us to pay careful attention to the call of the question.  He showed us the June 2009 FYLSE California Baby Bar exam.  There was a trick question:  A convoluted fact pattern (but very specific call of the question) that was designed to punish those who started writing without first carefully reading!

I am thankful that I attend a top-notch distance education law school!

Bob Marley "Natural Mystic"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKtX...EdcoaCukH4

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 10:32 AM
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Sometimes a person (like Mrs. Tiger Woods, for instance!) gets mad.  Like Jesse James.  Cool down!  Relax.  Listen to some revenge music by Sir John Lee Hooker.  He's mad.  He's bad.  Like Jesse James!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyaMzU9ZkE

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 10:48 AM
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Don't trust Muddy!  He might cut ya!  He might shoot ya!

He's scandalous!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKHz94rGpk

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
07 Dec 2009 10:53 AM
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Sherminator

I am glad your prof did a great job and told you rule #1. Follow the call of the question! It sounds like your in good hands. I worry about the last contracts question because the call addressed breach, I managed to get through just about everything, however was only able to partially address that... That is the only real thing that scares me on the essays.
As for how good your school is well just look up their stats over the last ten years on the BB. You can feel as good as you want about the instruction, but if they only have say a 16% pass rate, well then your up the creek so to speak. I am not trying to be harsh, just trying to prepare you for the worst. I am not saying you can't beat the odds, I am just saying its best to be well informed. As my school has the highest pass rate in the state, I am not as worried, but then again one never knows. This test is designed to fail you! The graders admit as much. In fact, I am told they go in with the assumption that your paper is a 60% to 65% and they have to justify giving you a higher grade.
Oh and be glad your not going to a place like Peoples College of Law. Again, they have the lowest pass rate in the state. To put this in perspective if you wind up their, you have a better chance becoming a lawyer by collecting spare change from you counch and bribing the chief justice with it. :P

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 10:56 AM
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scrivener5

I tried to find the Clapton version on youtube.  But it was not there.  Shame.  This is the second best version.  Actually, it is the original version by the author, Bob Marley.  Get the studio Clapton version.  Short of that, stick with Bob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4zo...re=related

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 10:58 AM
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Sherminator:

Don't you fret none.  We did fine!

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 11:48 AM
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Hi Sherminator!

It is Monday.  Results are mailed on Friday.  We have nothing to worry about.  If we did well...or if we did poorly...there just ain't nothing we can do about it now!

So relax!  And listen to some tunes!


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Author: I Ron ik [21813]
07 Dec 2009 05:34 PM
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I Ron ik

It seems odd to use the schools as an indicator of how well you may or not have done, especially when you consider the best of the best still avg. under 30%.

By defintion a majority of the people taking this test are going to "distance" or "correspondence" schools so they are more likely than not relying on their own ability to learn and pass the test not that of a professor.

I am currently attending a DLS that has consisitently been in the top percentile, but in my preparation for the FYLSE my professors were a VERY small factor.

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 06:01 PM
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scrivener5

?????

I am Scrivener5.

Who are you?




"
Band on the Run"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7D6...re=related

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 06:03 PM
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Hi IRon,

Your first post made it seem like you were purporting to be me.

We don't take kindly to FRAUD in these here parts!

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 06:09 PM
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scrivener5

Just in case you did not understand...

This is what we Yanks did 100 years ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RZKHQnReig

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
07 Dec 2009 06:32 PM
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Sherminator

Ummm Speak for your self about the best school having a pass rate of only 30%... My school has an average around 66% more or less... In fact one year we had a 93% pass rate! And yes this is the baby bar. Like I said, my school has the highest pass rates.
That said, for those of your that go to a school with a pass rate in the teens, well things could be worse.
However, I can tell you one such fellow I know who failed. There was an african american man in front of me in line for the test. The fellow didnt seem to realize that digital clocks were banned, well the young man would not give up his digital clock when he was told he could not have it, as a result i saw him tackled by this old white man. It was quite the site. Kinda sad really, felt bad for him. But he should have read the rules! So there is one fail for you. :-)
So guys, when you add up the fools that didnt read the instructions on the multiple choice, or the ones that didnt read the call, or even the people that wrote immediately without prewriting, well you take out a lot of the failures. That sad, if you did not do those things the odds improve. :-)

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 06:36 PM
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scrivener5

Again,

Whoever posted that is not me.

There is some problem when people access this site.  They get a set-up menu.

But...

I am the only Scrivener5.

Let's not perpetrate FRAUD here...

Okay?

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 06:39 PM
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scrivener5

Relax, Dude!

Have a drink.  Have a nap.  Friday is D-Day.  We will soon find out whether we did it...or not.  Don't lose sleep over it.

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Author: I Ron Ik [21813]
07 Dec 2009 06:57 PM
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(2) things:

1. Scriv, I am not trying to act like you... thus far I have made 1 post here, using my name.

2. There is no school w/ an average near 66% on the FYLSE. I imagine you are either referring to Oakbrook or California and neither one has an avg. at or near 60%.

Again, I am not saying that a good school isn't important, but w/ the results out there I would only rely on myself and not put much weight on the merits of any DLS.

I hope you guys did well and passed, but your pointing at your school in correlation to how well you did is almost comedic. Further, how do you know that man who was tackled wasn't from your school?

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Author: Sherminator [21813]
07 Dec 2009 07:24 PM
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Sherminator

Excuse me but trust me I know my schools numbers. Perhaps they may be as low as 56% if you dont count first timers, I thought we were limiting are conversation to those. Second timers shouldnt even count honestly, just because most schools numbers there are just sad and are not even discussed.
As for that fellow going to my school, trust me he didn't. Bet he goes to one of the diploma mills like Abramham Lincoln or Peoples. :P
Ok I should be nice. But he doesnt go to my school because I know every single person in my class. That said, your school is wear your getting your instruction, there is a reason there is a correration to that, and your likly hood of passing. Those among us that are getting substandard education from the poor qualitity schools, well I feel sorry for you. I am not saying you won't pass, I am just saying its not that likly. So please prove me wrong. Honestly I hope the pass rate is in the 60's for everyone, but with the ABA controling the baby bar its likly to be in the 20's at best, and even as low as 9% as it was at one time during the 1980's. Then again it was 10% just a year ago on exam i heard.... So stay by your mail boxs folks, we are in for a bumpy ride. As the chinse say, may you live in interesting times. :-)
(Oh and I would love to fix a million of my spelling errors, but this silly site won't even let me click latter in the document to correct them! Tisk tisk, so enjoy this poor excuse for grammar and spelling :P

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 07:33 PM
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Hi IRon,

I know very well about pretentious FALSE FRIENDS:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPJP0tbhAVQ

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Author: I Ron ik [21813]
07 Dec 2009 07:37 PM
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I Ron ik

You can not change the facts to fit your argument... Please go to the Cal Bar site find your school and go back say 5 years (or whatever you feel is relevant). I can assure you, as I already have that you will be hard pressed to find a school averaging 45%.

While I don't know you, you seem to have the same pretentious and assumptive type of attitude I see on alot of these sites regarding non-accredited schools.

This is further evidenced by your writing, in what I would consider "non-lawyer" like. I am not attacking you in any way, but if some one questioned the validity of my argument (ie My school avgs 66%) I would address that if I wanted to make a valid argument. "Excuse me I know my facts"...lol... will not likely get you far in a court.

I am telling you I have gone back 5+ years on every school (I did this before I started LS also) and can tell you your facts regarding pass rates for LS's (whether your LS or not) is in fact incorrect.

I too am guilty of many grammatical/spelling errors as I can not go back and correct. I promise I know they are there.

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Author: scrivener5 [847] Send Private Message
07 Dec 2009 07:45 PM
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scrivener5

IRon,

You are wrong on EVERY count.

I never talked about my school! 

Re-direct your address to the proper party...

friend.

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