Hello All,

I am a US licensed residing overseas. I am seeking for a group of US lawyers who are interested in or good at doing bankruptcy law (on creditor's rights) or contract law, corporate law on contingency fee basis. The profit margin is really great. Long-term or short-term cooperation is welcomed!

If you also desire to or have to start your legal career on your own feet, let's work together no matter how inexperienced you might be at this moment. Let's take the first step to start our legal career with our own clients and with potential great rewards later on. After all, doing something is better than nothing as long as we are careful to observe our professional responsibility.

I have a delinquent account case at hand now that is need to be filed in CA. My client is waiting for my potential partner to join Right Now! So if any of you who is currently licensed in CA and looking for self-taught hand-on experience, please contact me asap, but the only one condition is that you are serious on this venture.

Thank you and I am hoping that our group will be formed soon!

By the way, the delinquent accounts I mentioned are all business accounts that contains considerable amount of debts. It is not consumer debts, but business debts. Three areas of law are main areas to practice on:
1) bankruptcy law
2) contract law
3) coperate law
in addition to litigation skills

This is a scam. You can read about it on solosez.

How do you know that this is scam? I know there are lots of debt collection scams, but I am NOT scam provider! If you want to explore, email me at chrischen182003@yahoo.com, I can email you my license and the case I am now handling.

For more information: I was a foreign student studying JD at a US law school. Because of the bad economy, I gave up my original plan to work in the US for a few years and returned to my country. Now I am planning to build up a strong team to work on oversea debt collection cases. Although you might be as inexperienced as I do, but I have clients and I believe together we can make it!!! Learning is practicing, practing is learning!

Please send me your resumes and/or self-introduction if interested and if you are pioneering and perseverant! I believe similar minds get together and work better!

I wanted to leave this alone, but I just can't. 

The scam is that you receive a purported settlement check, run it through your trust account, and then wire the funds to the purported creditor to later find out the check is bad.

Why don't you explain why you post on some forum instead of contacting a local bar association to get a referral - I am sure the local bar association could refer you Right Now to an attorney with the coperate law experience that you are seeking. Why would you want an inexperienced attorney from a forum instead?

And I bet this guy is in "Nigeria."

I am not in the States now, so I do not know your suggested approach would work. But I will try it, thanks.

The reason why I post here, is because I tried to contact local experienced lawyer through internet search, usually I will spend tremendous time to search for hundreds of firms and got a few replies. But it turned out that they might think the same way as you do because too many scams over there for debt collection. But I again state that I am NOT! You know what? My idea to focus on debt collection is because of those scams! They inspired me to explore this legal business after I could not find the legal business for a while. Those scams from Nigeria, yes, I have received many of them, I even called some of them for verification. But you cannot judge just because something can be used for scam purpose, then something does not exist at all.

Another big reason why experienced attorney could not help me now is because they do not want to do on contingency basis. Debt collection cases are challenging, although not all of them. They do not want to spend billable hours for some cases, even certain they would win, but uncertain how court would rule.

But for those who have no legal jobs lined up now, for those who are eager to go out on their own ways, who have guts to try, and have patience to see it through, you can join me! I know inexperience can be risky, but as I said, so long as we are careful to observe the guildlines of professional responsibility, nothing will go wrong if we just do step by step. Of course, my client like to have experience and reputable attorney to win the case, but those attorneys either do not believe overseas inquiry on such cases, or do not want to spend billable hours on it. Got it?? So i decided, rather than give up the case, I would try this way out, let our inexperienced newly minted attorney try to win the justice!

Kathie2syr how dare you? We always use the slightest opportunity to manifest our prejudice. Why single out a country you M-Fing moron.

Oh bite me. Anyone who has email has received at least one of the "Nigerian" banking scams which this "offer" is very close to and THAT is what I referring to. Let me guess, you calling anyone who criticizes Obama a racist too?

Just shot up. We know your type.

Well “lady”, first off I did not post your presumed “scam”. I am also neither a Nigerian nor a Democrat and really do not care about your feelings about the president. I just thought your comments were uncalled for, your reasoning was warped and such attitude could only stem from a sorry ass bigot; and you proved me right.

Goodness gracious, y'all have too much time on your hands. Why don't you go out and look for jobs? Or take a spelling/grammar course?

It's called "multitasking" :) And ahem, what are "you" doing in here in the middle of a work day?

Posted By on 04 Feb 2010 12:28 PM
Well “lady”, first off I did not post your presumed “scam”. I am also neither a Nigerian nor a Democrat and really do not care about your feelings about the president. I just thought your comments were uncalled for, your reasoning was warped and such attitude could only stem from a sorry ass bigot; and you proved me right.

Assuming someone is a racist for making reference to a country becoming famous for its email banking scams is what I would say is "uncalled for." That type of knee-jerk response is becoming all too common. And your condescending "lady" only reinforces my assessment of you.

Trying to figure out how to get these pathetic emails to stop coming to me, now that I have passed the bar and am busily employed as an attorney.

Kathy, I am sorry for that unnecessary rant. Please accept my apology.

Luv ya.

Posted By on 04 Feb 2010 01:35 PM
Kathy, I am sorry for that unnecessary rant. Please accept my apology.

Luv ya.

Apology accepted, I don't know about love but I'll accept like for now :) FYI....starting your conversation off with "lady" is a sure fire way of getting the woman to show her talons.

It's all good :-)

Why, thank you for your integrity! Your objective reasoning was sound! But too sad, too many distrustful souls here! But I can understand it because I was also the target for those scam emails. I would like to restate here: just because something that can be used for scam, it does not mean that something does not exist for its own right.

Kathy, your absolute conclusion is obviously too extreme. Do you still recall the logic reasoning question in LSAT?

For those who doubt the truthfulness of the post, can email me and I would send you the real case I am talking about including court documents if you agree to sign confidentiality agreement first.

Posted By on 04 Feb 2010 10:42 PM
Why, thank you for your integrity! Your objective reasoning was sound! But too sad, too many distrustful souls here! But I can understand it because I was also the target for those scam emails. I would like to restate here: just because something that can be used for scam, it does not mean that something does not exist for its own right.

Kathy, your absolute conclusion is obviously too extreme. Do you still recall the logic reasoning question in LSAT?

For those who doubt the truthfulness of the post, can email me and I would send you the real case I am talking about including court documents if you agree to sign confidentiality agreement first.

Peddle it elsewhere, like a previous poster pointed out the obvious and legitimate place to look for help is through the Bar Association.

Kathy, thanks for your suggestions, especially thanks to the previous poster who recommended some channel to get referrals. I am trying different approach now because as you might know that attorneys got formally introduced through bar associations are more likely not willing to spend billiable hours in oversea contingency cases. This type of case demands entrepreneur's spirit and determination as well.

I think what limpy is trying to say is that attorneys referred by bar associations would smell this from a mile away so he is trolling here. How do you know that an attorney referred by the bar association would not be interested? Have you even tried? Are only attorneys on this forum entrepreneurial? Assuming you are for real, if attorneys that handle these types of matters would turn it down, why in the world would you expect other attorneys that know nothing about this to accept the work?

I decided to do your work for you - I googled "global delinquent accounts collection." Ironically, this thread comes up first. However, there are links to firms that do exactly this type of work. Did you call one of these firms to see if they would be willing to give you a referral fee? You don't think like an attorney and you don't write like an attorney. Please go away.

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/e_mail_scam_targeting_law_firms_ensnares_a_lawyer_in_atlanta/


The latest victim of an e-mail scam targeting law firms is Atlanta lawyer Gregory Bartko. The lawyer sometimes handles international legal transactions involving Asian clients, and work is often conducted by e-mail because of the time difference, according to the Fulton County Daily Report. So Bartko wasn’t alarmed when he received an e-mail from a Taiwan company asking him to help collect a debt in the U.S. The story explains how Bartko fell prey to the scam. The debtor company sent Bartko a cashier’s check for nearly $200,000 as partial payment, and Bartko deposited it in his trust account before wiring the money to a South Korean bank, the story says. The check, it turns out, was counterfeit. Bartko wired the money three days after the check was deposited. He tells the Fulton County Daily Report that Wachovia Bank told him that was enough time for the check to clear. But now Wachovia has sued Bartko for the money, claiming it extended Bartko provisional credit when it wired the money to South Korea. Bartko says the counterfeit check was apparently misplaced by another bank and it did notify Wachovia the check was counterfeit within the required three-day deadline. The scammer who contacted Bartko identified itself as Tah Tong Textile Co., a real company that trades on the Taiwanese stock exchange. Now Bartko thinks there is no connection between the company and the person who contacted him. Bartko says a member of the bank’s loss management team told him it is investigating a similar matter involving another Atlanta-area lawyer. Officials at Wells Fargo Bank in San Francisco and City National Bank in Los Angeles say they know of at least six lawyers who have responded to the same e-mail scam, the California Bar Journal reports. Ted Kitada, senior counsel for Wells Fargo & Co., told the bar journal that the scammers change the nine-digit numbers at the bottom of the check so that it is wired to a different bank than the one named. That causes a delay in processing. Since lawyers are good clients, banks often make funds available even if a check has not cleared. Bartko told the Fulton County Daily Report he’s upset by the ordeal. "I got conned by someone who I thought was a client."